Really? Did I just read this statement on the vine...

Deleted my previous comment...

I may be wrong.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Poe's_Law

Wasn't clear enough to me though. What do you guys think?

nicey thank you much.

that person also posted this

I want to see a real interview of Cheney where he is asked how much he profited from the deaths of 4,000 American soldiers and the deaths of over 100,000 Iraqis and Afghanis.

he doesnt sound like a hardcore rightwinger does he???

but thanks for the article.....a fail on your part...it was obvious that he by making that statement was making fun of those who support palin. before jumping to conclusions about a statement do some research.

James, it wasn't obvious to me.

Sorry. There was no sarc line, I don't know that poster. And thanks, I'm making an honest apology and you're again, being combative.

the poster is not a brainless Palin supporter...maybe a troll...but not a supporter of palin.

why did you delete the link??? because it proves this whole article is wrong??

lol nice.

I deleted my comment realizing I may be wrong (though I still have issue with the post, and revised my article to say so)

Here:

http://robvukovic.newsvine.com/_news/2011/01/20/5888284-why-america-is-growing-tired-of-palin-cnncom?last=1295629743&threadId=3033913&sp=0&pc=25#last_1

Comment 2.7, In the context of the discussion, I couldn't make that out.

Is this seed satire or what? The guy was being sarcastic and yet it's posted as a seed topic as supposed evidence of another crazy right-winger? I guess it's ok to make things up to suit your purposes and unfortunately, many will read this and believe it to be true.

You'll note I edited the article.

Sorry, in the context of the discussion, I couldn't distinguish it.

Me personally, I put sarcasm lines when I'm doing sarcasm. Or try to qualify the statement. I posted it because I found the post to be way out of line.

[Even for sarcasm]

Edit: Drift, you've made honest mistakes before...or even factual ones...so have I...

but I guess that doesnt really excite you now does it?

Sigh...

James...do you want to make me go over your history of posting?

For one thing (since you research all of us) you'd know I'm not excited by the prospect of a divided country at all. Regardless of which side it is.

What drives me is being an empathetic person. It is who I am and always will be. The height of the ridiculousness of the last few weeks were statements like say this one...

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jon-stewart-mocks-sarah-palins-double-standard-over-inflamed-political-rhetoric/

Palin frames the argument correctly...(that we shouldn't be thinking about blaming political sides in this shooting and that we need to be considerate of what we say)

Then *she proceeds to say the shooter was likely a leftist criminal*

My extreme dislike of that side of the aisle comes from the very blatant and huge lies. For example...

Leftist people say they are for social spending...then they proceed to spend on social welfare. Rightist people say they are for being fiscally conservative...yet there's 30 years of evidence that they spend, spend, spend...*it's just on the s&^% they want to spend on*

Sure, both parties are inadequate (which is why I trust neither one) but one is woefully hypocritical because they violate the very foundation that they claim.

Dems might be the same liars, crooks, badmouth as Pubs, but they spend money on Social Welfare which is their foundation.

no reason to delete the article. Maybe you should talk about how left wing people pretend to be right wing to stir up hatred??

You'd do well to read the link and see what it actually highlights.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Poe's_Law

Me personally, I'm not going to change my take. I thought it was offensive, I still think it is. But* the poster was successful in proving the point of the link.

wow nicey

usually you get suspended for putting the type of article wrong...guess that only happens to the right wing or non democrat types on here.

Really?

I think most people know me here. My intentions weren't anything but honest. Been here a long time, and I don't think I've ever had a CoH pulled on me. But whatever.

While on first read, it does sound like sarcasm (it seems to me it's laid on a little thick - pure as snow? Christ-like? Nazi's?), I would say that if I saw the whole convo and it turned out to be real it wouldn't surprise me in the least.

That's what fooled me.

Sometimes you get so ingrained in these conversations. I didn't see the sarcasm on first glance.

I posted it earlier.

What I posted was the entire comment in the discussion string.

http://robvukovic.newsvine.com/_news/2011/01/20/5888284-why-america-is-growing-tired-of-palin-cnncom?last=1295629743&threadId=3033913&sp=0&pc=25#last_1

Comment 2.7, In the context of the discussion, I couldn't make that out.

nicey

mistakes happen and this is a genuine one and you have owned up to it. It shows you have class and are an adult.

Yet your response was pretty classless. Even when I owned up to it.

Something from your posting history...you don't do. Even if you're wrong about something simple.

Like getting math wrong.

Can I point out something though??? I am a libertarian and do not like Palin one bit as evidenced by my other posts here....but it was soooooooo easy for me to see this was just sarcasm. Now you being left wing have fallen into this false illusion of good vs evil...dem vs repub and are so caught up in your rhetoric that you were unable to see it.

I just happen to think the hypocrisy on the right is of greater volume and degree than the left. I was actually caught up in the discussion more than anything. Which is bordered by other posters defending Palin.

As I pointed out. Simple measurement.

1) The basic tennant of the modern GOP is fiscal conservation.

2) The basic tennant of the modern DNC is social welfare.

Dems spend on social programs. Pubs don't honor fiscal conservation at all.

May I suggest coming over to the libertarian side where you actually can see what is going on...

The association that Libertarians have is often wrong.

Such as, the belief that somehow the Founding Fathers were like them...

*No, they weren't.* The founding fathers were elitist academics.

The second is, everytime I talk to a libertarian they talk about taxes.

Hello? The wealthy paid *all the taxes* till 1913 basically.

Those are my two biggest disagreements with libertarians. I happen to believe in social equality, as such, some of the ideas of socialism are appealing in theory to me.

as you are not one side...you are able to see and make decisions without bias in regards to our politics in this country

peace.

It's still a side. Everyone has one. Usually our own.

The only way we don't have sides is if we are all working for the same thing.

I will say this

That's fair enough.

I know sometimes when I'm responding I take a condescending tone when I know something to be wrong. And I often re-read what I say and take out words that are insulting before I post.

How about we just focus on civility in discussions. We have ideas and we can discuss the benefits and drawbacks of those ideas without pointing out someone being a Nazi, Stalinist, Racist, etc.

government bigger and to take away the rights of the citizens.

And yes, I'd also agree that as a party, when there is talk about SS, Medicare, Medicade and so on, the unfortunate aggregate result is people expanding control by using these things.

In and of itself, social programs have benefits. Can be beneficial to a society. Just like in and of itself, capitalism, can be beneficial. But then there's the ability to use these concepts and exert controls over others.

Obviously, I like some ideas of socials (we should be rewarded equally for equal efforts)...then you have the people who use socialism...Mao, Stalin, and what they did was not socialism at all. But a twisted violation of the idea.